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Thanks Jon you make nice fixture definitions. I finally got around to being able to try them out. BTW, I recently used Sonar Home Studio to do my MP3 lighting sync project. It worked OK, but was not as user friendly as I would have liked and I had to use sys ex since I could not find the program changes in the software. The other limitation is the lack of live editing in the software. Oh well, maybe next show. Kyle
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